The Blina is Working

Saturday, January 28, 2023 · by John Lilly
We just got back the results from the NGS genomic test for Sam, and for the first time since June, there’s no detectable leukemia in Sam’s body. It’s a great milestone, and an important one as we head towards a stem cell transplant in March. But miles to go. 
We’re really, really happy about it, of course, but also trying to manage our psychologies — that word “detectable” is a tricky one, and leukemia is very very sneaky. 
As you’ll recall from previous posts, NGS has a resolution of about 1 part per million; and we’ve got something like 150M white blood cells in our body (and 300B overall, mostly red cells). When Sam and Kathy went to the ER in June, his NGS showed 900k leukemic cells per million (!); after a couple of weeks of chemo, around 7k, then after another month of induction, it was about 70 cells per million. After 8 weeks of consolidation treatment on high dose methotrexate it was back up to 4.5k, which caused us to head down the path of blinatumomab as a way to try to get Sam to as close to zero on the NGS before a transplant. That’s the #1 factor that correlates with a durable cancer-free future after transplant.
So it’s extremely encouraging that we’re at zero! The blina has been sort of miraculous and there appear to be very few side effects. Sam’s feeling really good, his hair’s growing back, and it’s generally been very manageable in ways that the chemo definitely was not. 
(The one thing that you do watch for on targeted therapies like blina and CAR-T is something called lineage switch, where the nature of the leukemia turns from ALL to AML, but that doesn’t appear to be happening for Sam at this point.)
In retrospect, because of the specific nature of Sam’s mutation (KMT2A-r), it feels like this blina-to-transplant path was always the one we would get to, as it combines the targeted nature of blina with the thorough eradication nature of a transplant. And in fact as Kathy has been looking and looking for the kids & teens with KMT2A-r ALL (there are very few — maybe 5-10/year in the states, but we’re really not sure, and they’re difficult to find), we’re starting to find families who have had similar experiences. We are also becoming amateur research oncologists — reading as many papers as we can find, at least (which has honestly been rough on my Facebook and Instagram ads — they are really, really trying to sell me medical scrubs in a variety of new colors — just about the only ads I see anymore) — and Kathy’s found some new papers from a group in Poland that suggests that KMT2A is resistant to methotrexate and maybe 6-MP (which is another of the core chemotherapies that Sam’s been on). 
This is one of our emergent learnings — we (humans) are very clearly on the precipice of some massive, foundational changes in how we treat disease. Sometimes called precision medicine, sometimes called individualized medicine. But in so many ways it’s clear we’re moving from mass population symptom & protocol-based treatments towards understanding more fundamental mechanisms of action that mean medical care may well vary from person to person even if they’re showing the same overall symptoms. In our case, it now seems pretty clear that because of KMT2A instead of doing methotrexate for the consolidation phase, we should have just gone to blina.
There are reasons we didn’t — Sam’s initial response to the St Judes TOTAL-17 standard protocol for ALL was really encouraging, and so we stayed on it.
We aren’t overly worked up about this — it was a reasonable path to go down. And we think we’re in a very good place right now that was sort of inevitable. We do wish we could have spared Sam the time in the hospital and on the HDMX — they were rough weeks. But hard to know, really.
What’s (maybe academically)  interesting is that there are starting to be specific mutations that are in the ALL protocol but treated differently — most notably something called the Philadelphia chromosome translation. Because it’s found in a reasonably large (maybe 30%?) portion of adolescents with leukemia and is also resistant to chemo (in some analogous ways to KMT2A-r) is, the treatment diverges from the standard protocol. It seems pretty clear now that as we learn more about KMT2A and other mutations that we’ll have more specific pathways for each. 
But we’re still in a somewhat awkward transition phase between traditional medicine and this new individualized approach. Which means that most physicians weren’t trained in school on it and are learning on the cutting edge. 
This is mostly really great! As I said: a miracle. But also requires a lot of reading & listening & checking & double checking & etc etc. I’m beyond grateful that Kathy & I are both (kind of) equipped to read & ask questions of some of the world’s experts on this stuff. And we know that once we get our own patient #1 healthy again, we’ll be spending a lot of time on helping get the field moved forward so that other families don’t have to be MIT & Stanford trained & connected to navigate the best path for themselves. 
So we’re making progress, and very optimistic! Given the positive news, this is probably a more measured post than you might expect, so just a note on that: Kathy & I are trying hard to manage our emotions & psychologies in a pretty narrow band around neutral — trying to avoid getting ourselves too up or too down on any given development. Because as good as any result is, there will be reversals and complications. And we know that the transplant is going to be rough sledding during the 4-6 weeks in the hospital and the 9-12 months rebuilding Sam’s immune system — no matter what.
And we also know that Sam is a very even-keeled kind of human. He does best when he just puts his head down and works through it all. He’s more interested, honestly, in the day-to-day of being 17, gaming & Snapchat & discord, figuring out school, and who he wants to be. Thank god for that, and it helps us all too — we note the medical progress, but mostly we talk about the non-medical side of life, and we’d ask that of all of you when you interact with Sam, too. 
Phew! That’s a lot more than I meant to write. We’re really happy & hopeful, and today Sam will get home with his 2nd bag of blina for the next 26 days, and we’ll figure out a lot about transplant between now & then. 
So here’s to blina & here’s to Sam. Next steps.
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30 comments

Dana Lilly · Saturday, January 28, 2023
Thank for explaining the process. It is a miracle, and we hope to hear there are even more. Our thoughts and hearts are with everyone. Lots of love ❤️
John Lilly · Saturday, January 28, 2023
This is wonderful news. Great for all of you. Thanks for the thoroughness of the post; it helps us understand what’s going on.
J'Ann Schoonmaker Allen · Saturday, January 28, 2023
OMG! I'm so in awe of you, Kathy and John. Balance always seems to be key in life, but sometimes, I, even at this age of so called wisdom I'm supposed to be living in, find it challenging to find that balance. John and Kathy, you're really doing well. Sending much love and prayers and lighting many candles, but I'd really like to play a game of duck hunt with you.
joelle kaufman · Saturday, January 28, 2023
Great news and good to manage the emotional highs and lows as much as possible. Glad the blina is working and tolerable. Hope he keeps getting to be a teen.
Elizabeth Gomez · Saturday, January 28, 2023
Excellent news!
Blake Korb · Saturday, January 28, 2023
You all are amazing #teamsam
kathy howe · Sunday, January 29, 2023
Thanks Blake! Give addy a kiss for us ❤️
Ellen Levy · Saturday, January 28, 2023
I will try to say this in the most measured way I can… That is great news!

I hope you can celebrate the milestone while keeping on the course with all its ups and downs.
kathy howe · Sunday, January 29, 2023
Thanks Ellen!
Andrew Korb · Saturday, January 28, 2023
Thanks for the post. Wonderful news, of course, understand completely maintaining a relatively even keel. But for now, this is sweet news. Lots of love Andy and Susan
Palon Shuster · Saturday, January 28, 2023
This warms my heart. Such great progress. Balance is such a high wire act, but key for all of you. Love that Sam focuses on being a teen and you and Kathy have plans for helping others without Stanford or MIT in their arsenal.
eve blossom · Saturday, January 28, 2023
What a great post to read. Thank you for having us on this journey with you, for sharing on a level for us to learn about the specifics and process and also, what serves Sam, you, Kathy and your family best. Much love and awe of your navigation through this. Xo.
Daesman Suri · Saturday, January 28, 2023
Remarkable news! Kathy will tell you that I rarely say anything like this. :)
kathy howe · Sunday, January 29, 2023
😂
hunter walk · Saturday, January 28, 2023
AMAZING! sending love
Chris Yeh · Sunday, January 29, 2023
It's a long journey with many hard months ahead, but thank you for sharing and explaining the current (wonderful) news.
Lindsay Harrison · Sunday, January 29, 2023
Consider this a relatively neutral YES! Here to celebrate the good days and ride out the less good ones with you all.
kathy howe · Sunday, January 29, 2023
Thank you Lindsay!
Vadim Axelrod · Sunday, January 29, 2023
That's so amazing!
Gowri G · Sunday, January 29, 2023
❤️❤️
Marie Crawford · Sunday, January 29, 2023
Such great news! I think about Sam often and donate whole blood every 2 months with him in mind, as well as my mom, who had CMML. Sam is doing so well! I’m very excited for your whole family!
Claudia Hung · Sunday, January 29, 2023
I can’t ❤️ this post enough. So happy for Sam and your family. Keep crushing it #TeamSam.
Count me in on helping folks navigate their individual health care.
David Hornik · Sunday, January 29, 2023
You may have to join the faculty of Stanford medicine after all this!
dave lilly · Sunday, January 29, 2023
Wonderful news ❤️
Cindy McLaughlin · Sunday, January 29, 2023
GO SAM!!!! Such wonderful, hopeful news.
Natalya Crump · Sunday, January 29, 2023
You guys, this is so, so wonderful in a ton of ways. ❤️ Thanks for the thoughtful post!
Frederic GARDERES · Monday, January 30, 2023
As Sam knows, a soccer game is not over until the whistle blows.
Keep playing your hearts out until that time, as the opponent is strong, and twisted.
Bryan Rollins · Monday, January 30, 2023
So so so so so excited for this result. Wow, this was great to hear. YEAH! @#$% YEAH!
Michelle Stewart · Monday, January 30, 2023
I am grateful for your long message. I love being updated on the specifics. Staying neutral can be a challenge for parents - sending strength and energy your way as you stay on the incredibly challenging path of being hopeful, realistic, supportive, and in the midst of it all - a human being with your own needs. It's exhausting. Hugs, love, and prayers coming your way. <3
kathy howe · Tuesday, January 31, 2023
Thank you Michelle!